tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post3722016983194306515..comments2023-10-18T07:25:14.707-07:00Comments on Preachrblog: Under the InfluencePreachrboyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08058617284103464853noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-12905444140762971512009-05-10T11:46:00.000-07:002009-05-10T11:46:00.000-07:00Yes, my argument is that it's a better fit, and th...Yes, my argument is that it's a better fit, and therefore to be preferred. <br /><br />I never said "organ only, ever", though, and have seen tympani drums, for instance, as part of a rousing orchestral arrangement of A Mighty Fortress.<br /><br />I would agree that "Lutheranism does not equate to organ music". <br /><br />But those who prefer other instruments, in my experience, are generally under the influence of Evangelicalism.<br /><br />(This is all, of course, in our American WASP-type context. In other cultural contexts, music might have to be though of differently. I doubt that Organ music is preferable in certain African congregations, for instance, much less practical.)Preachrboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08058617284103464853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-13798029572458938442009-05-10T08:03:00.000-07:002009-05-10T08:03:00.000-07:00So your argument is that using an organ is what fi...So your argument is that using an organ is what fits better with Lutheran theology and practice in the liturgy. From my personal experience, it is possible to incorporate drums/guitars, etc., into the Divine Service without it losing what makes it distinctly Lutheran or disrupting the "mood" (as an accordion might). I'm not advocating rock music here, I'm just saying that "Lutheranism" does not have to equate to "organ music." For the record, I like organs, often more than drums/guitars. But both can have their place in a service that is still distinctly Lutheran. Does this always happen? No - but it can be done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-61705818714331149402009-05-09T19:04:00.000-07:002009-05-09T19:04:00.000-07:00Sorry, Anon, I think you are indeed "under the inf...Sorry, Anon, I think you are indeed "under the influence" on this point.<br /><br />You are right about the importance of the lyrics not being focused on the individual.<br /><br />But there's much more to music than that. Musical style (and yes, even certain instruments) can be more or less apporpriate in a worship setting. <br /><br />Much of it has to do with cultural context, and what sort of things a particular style of music evokes. For instance, you know "sad music" even without hearing the words, right? Isn't it possible that certain styles and even certain instruments bring elements of meaning to our music?<br /><br />I suppose you probably wouldn't be as comfortable with an accordian, would you? How about a noseflute?<br /><br />And frankly, "the Bible doesn't say..." is a weak argument here. The bible doesn't say a lot of things... that doesn't mean there aren't practices which reflect better (or worse) our distinctive Lutheran theology.<br /><br />I used to think style was completely separable from substance in church music. But, back then, I was much more "under the influence"Preachrboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08058617284103464853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-46348251280170130222009-05-09T16:08:00.000-07:002009-05-09T16:08:00.000-07:00Most of these are pretty good, but I personally do...Most of these are pretty good, but I personally don't think an organ is more "appropriate" than a drum set. God never specifies what instruments we're supposed to use to worship. (My church uses both). As long as the songs aren't focused on "me" and what "I" do, what's wrong with using drums?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-32222522418322649022009-05-07T19:36:00.000-07:002009-05-07T19:36:00.000-07:00Your idea of a good bible study is a group of peop...Your idea of a good bible study is a group of people sitting around talking about what a particular bible passage means to each of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-25637662659219995932009-05-04T12:57:00.000-07:002009-05-04T12:57:00.000-07:00You think Lutherans preach the gospel way too much...You think Lutherans preach the gospel way too much - people already know all that stuff, let's teach 'em how to live the Christian Life.Elephantschildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14610471467736150461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-10875307163093549322009-05-04T10:08:00.000-07:002009-05-04T10:08:00.000-07:00You use 1 Cor 9:22 as your favorite proof-text.
Y...You use 1 Cor 9:22 as your favorite proof-text.<br /><br />You are proud of the fact that you will buy your Bible studies from anywhere except CPH.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-91443660767484780022009-05-02T17:42:00.000-07:002009-05-02T17:42:00.000-07:00praying a "sinners prayer" or "prayer of commitmen...praying a "sinners prayer" or "prayer of commitment" after sermons. <br /> doing altar calls, testimonies, and other revivalistic practices, either in regular worship services or in special "evangelistic" services.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-7301066653309267122009-05-02T17:35:00.000-07:002009-05-02T17:35:00.000-07:00Using the "Left Behind" series as a means to get y...Using the "Left Behind" series as a means to get your members to read and study the Book of Revelation. This was done in my previous parish (ELCA), and is being done in Lutheran parishes from several synods.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-81656121144339818562009-05-01T15:30:00.000-07:002009-05-01T15:30:00.000-07:00You sincerely find 7-11 praise music deeply moving...You sincerely find 7-11 praise music deeply moving.Jerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-67199326320245834902009-05-01T06:01:00.000-07:002009-05-01T06:01:00.000-07:00Pr. Strey, those are hilarious. I'm re-posting the...Pr. Strey, those are hilarious. I'm re-posting them on my own blog. (with credit of course!)Elephantschildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14610471467736150461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-1360690791706649732009-04-30T16:36:00.000-07:002009-04-30T16:36:00.000-07:00You think that "Hawaiian Shirt" is the liturgical ...You think that "Hawaiian Shirt" is the liturgical color for festivals.<br /><br />I confess that this is totally shameless self-promotion on my part, but I've got a somewhat similar top ten list at this address:<br /><br />http://pastorstrey.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/top-ten-liturgical-insults/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-42678276711471667592009-04-30T15:29:00.000-07:002009-04-30T15:29:00.000-07:00You study the Bible with the intention to understa...You study the Bible with the intention to understand God's word(law) so that you can keep it better n better each day. And God will pour out "blessings" upon you because you're following his will, becoming more n more "Christ-Like".<br />(Sadly, your studying doesn't lead you to see how completely wretched and how much more wretched you are day after day. You should just beg for mercy.)Jerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-26820143350191229222009-04-30T08:20:00.000-07:002009-04-30T08:20:00.000-07:00You think that chanting the liturgy is "too 'KATOL...You think that chanting the liturgy is <B>"too 'KATOLISCH'".</B>Kantor B.http://emmanueladell.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-45705783506640447032009-04-29T19:53:00.000-07:002009-04-29T19:53:00.000-07:00You believe “I can convert someone to Christ”.
You...You believe “I can convert someone to Christ”.<br />You believe Balaam’s ass had a ministry.<br />You believe the pastor of your church is a CEO or manager.<br />You believe church services should be designed to appeal to the “unchurched”.<br />You don’t like to refer to some people as “unrepentant sinners”.<br />You believe that law should never be spoken in the presence of “seekers”.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-80382663406708735502009-04-29T16:36:00.000-07:002009-04-29T16:36:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Elephantschildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14610471467736150461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-5080484294449146982009-04-29T14:59:00.000-07:002009-04-29T14:59:00.000-07:00You need to look back just a little farther. When ...You need to look back just a little farther. When I was growing up in the late Sixties and seventies. I heard so many times, "Billy Graham has called the Lutheran Church a sleeping giant. We need to wake up and ". . . (have a revival, film series or whatever the cause de jour.) Also the effects of Evangelism Explosion. Have lived it and it was the start.<br /><br />Pace<br />AdrianAdrian Piazzanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-47045461599458984702009-04-29T13:42:00.000-07:002009-04-29T13:42:00.000-07:00Two cartoons from Leadership Magazine come to mind...Two cartoons from Leadership Magazine come to mind here.<br /><br />The first portrays a clergyman in a Roman collar standing in front of a mirror holding an open, floppy Bible with a crazed look in his eye. The caption: "Bah-RIM-ston-ah!"<br /><br />The second is a man at prayer. The caption, "Lord, I just really want to really just ask you to really help me to just stop using the words 'just' and 'really' so often in my prayers."<br /><br />I hate to be a "told you so," but I just saw this coming when I was at River Forest back in the late 'Seventies. Really.Robert Elart Watershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18182251436190781481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-53267716092164036432009-04-29T12:49:00.000-07:002009-04-29T12:49:00.000-07:00You insist that the problem with the youth is NOT ...You insist that the problem with the youth is NOT youth group, the problem with you group is NOT sunday school, and the problem with sunday school is NOT you forgetting to teach the catechism at home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-63786303931658217572009-04-29T12:35:00.000-07:002009-04-29T12:35:00.000-07:00You think teenagers should only be taught by their...You think teenagers should only be taught by their peers or visiting college students and not a catechized adult. <br /><br />You find a way to include the word feeling in any sentence about objective justification or faith. <br /><br />You are deeply offended that your friend’s church won’t let you have communion as it’s only a symbol. <br /><br />You believe that Confirmation marks a youth reaching the age of accountability.Frank Gillespiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606601821325532724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10155125.post-45523862179810572702009-04-29T12:30:00.000-07:002009-04-29T12:30:00.000-07:00Hmnn...
Well, I do have to disagree with the "Lord...Hmnn...<br />Well, I do have to disagree with the "Lord, we just..." item. It's incomplete. Rather, it should be, "Father God, we just..."<br /><br />Does anyone really want to have lunch with Dobson? Sounds like a yawn to me.<br /><br />in Christ,<br />jWjWintershttp://tumblr.jwinters.comnoreply@blogger.com